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Is tribe dying?

2009-11-07T22:34:52Z

I've always loved tribe. It's been one of my favorite forums. But recently, I feel it's dying. People no longer respond to posts.
Sometimes posts take a while to appear. Sometimes you think someone new has responded and in actuallity it's a post you posted months ago.

But really, tribe really seems dead lately. Is it because of the technical issues or has it just outlived its usefullness?

I'm kind of floored for example in the belly dance video tribe that it's rare for someone to actually watch the videos posted. I would have thought that tribe to be thriving!!!! I jusr don't get it.

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Giving Credit

2009-11-07T15:35:54Z

Great article by Dondi on ethics in Gilded Serpent. Some of this stuff seems so common sense to me but apparently it's not so common as I've seen it happen over and over. Thoughts?

http://www.gildedserpent.com/cms/2009/09/28/dondigivecredit/

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Breast Cancer Belly dance fundraiser ideas?

2009-11-03T18:14:44Z

Hi everyone
not sure where to post this but I thought I would start here. members of our troupe have participated in a local breast cancer fundraiser here called "Bust of Steamboat" The event calls for artists or whoever wants to create a piece of art or sculpture or painting or something involving a bra or boobs. The pieces are then auctioned off at a fun event at a local restaurant. Examples include paintings, photography, 3-d diorama with bras in them...the list goes on. You can check out some examples here thebustofsteamboat.org
anyhoo, we are going to auction off a vintage beaded and blinged beledi set and one of us will dance in it during the live auction.
We are looking for a NAME for our "piece" related to the event.
one of the girls started off with "bellies and boobs" but i think we can do better :)
Any ideas???
Help!!

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Commision on Artwork at a Dance Studio?

2009-11-03T15:34:13Z

Hello,

I need some advice, again, please.

I have a studio and have started to participate in First Fridays. I have asked different artists to bring their work, both to show t in my studio, for First Friday, and also to promote them for a month.

I think this is ‘good juju’. It benefits both artist and me, as people who might not normally come to my studio will perhaps visit it on First Friday and perhaps drum up some business for my studio classes or as rental space, and the artist gets a place to display their art for a month.

The first month, sadly, the artist did not sell anything. I had not thought about my compensation, but my next artist asked how much of a commission I would take. It makes sense (now that I think about it) that I would get a commission if a piece were sold, but I have no idea as this is my first time doing this.

What is normal for this type of arrangement? A percentage or a flat fee? I am open to your suggestions and appreciate any advice you might provide.

Thanks,
Joyce

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Does anyone recall a thread on music editing software?

2009-10-30T13:04:48Z

Folks,

I seem to recall a few months ago a discussion thread on the topic of music editing software. I thought I had bookmarked it. Unfortunately, I can't find the bookmark anywhere (damned browser!). Some of you recommended a free music editing software app and I cannot for the life of me recall what it was. Does anyone remember?

Any responses will be much appreciated.

~S~

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Ethical teaching

2009-10-26T21:43:24Z

Ok, this post may be out of place. If it is please delete it or let me know and if I can,I will.

There is no one in my area interested in teaching ATS. This is within a 400 mile radius. Partly because I think it's a vicious cycle of no available teachers and partly because they haven't been really exposed to it.

I did find a lady in Ft Worth, whom I'm meeting at Tribal Alchemy for Sooz's class. So I know "I" can find guidance.

But that still leaves no one here in Tyler. I've called 3 studios, who are somewhat interested, but I'd have to teach.
Originally, I thought I'd be the student. Then I thought, just gather them, but where? Now it's snowballing into teaching just to get steady dance partners.

Is this how teachers are born made?

And the business part comes in at- I'd get paid, when I was willing to do it for free, only the logistics of a place to practice and insurance for mishaps came into play.

Any advice, suggestions, encouragement would be helpfull and appreciated. This will probably be cross posted in the teaching forum.
And no, I haven't been studying ATS for long. Cabaret is all that's available here. But I am ridiculously self motivated, organized, and disciplined.
The studios' interest came while I was looking for teachers and shopping in their boutiques.

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Belly Dance Horror Stories needed for Halloween!

2009-10-10T17:39:32Z

*cross post*

Who has a story to share? I'm writing an article on 'belly dance horror stories' for Halloween, for the BellyDancingDiva.com
If you alow me to publish your story I'll give you credits and a link. Or anonymous is also possible.
You can email me at silimavanya@gmail.com

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New Year, new plans?

2009-10-10T12:06:41Z

What do you plan to do for your dance business this year?

What has worked that you'll keep the same?
How do you plan to improve your services?
How do you plan to find new/bigger market/clients?
What kind of contribution do you plan to make to your dance community this year?

What are your business New Year's Resolutions?

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New tribe "Higher Standards in Bellydance"

2009-09-30T17:26:59Z

Hello!
I'd like to invite anyone who's interested to join our brand new tribe "Higher Standards in Bellydance", which you can join here?
http://tribes.tribe.net/higherstandardsinbellydance#
To give you an idea of what we're about, here's the introduction:
Welcome!
This tribe is for bellydancers who wish to work together to raise the standards in bellydance. Some of our goals include getting bellydance out of venues like nightclubs, separating burlesque influence from bellydance, discouraging skimpy costumes and provocative choreography, and increasing the overall image of bellydance.
If you are tired of being turned down for events or dealing with the stereotypes that belly dance is not family appropriate, or somehow lesser than arts like ballet and modern, this tribe is for you.
Why is it that the oldest dance in the world is also the most misunderstood? Ballet, for instance, is only 400 years old, whereas the roots of bellydance are estimated to have originated 6,000 to 8,000 years ago in Babylon and Egypt. Yet ballet is well known and highly respected all over the world. When the word ballet is mentioned, one envisions a highly trained dancer in a beautiful theatre. When one envisions bellydance, many different things come to mind, from ill-trained dancers in a in sleazy nightclubs, to some of the finer troupes in respected venues. We need to work together to raise the standards in bellydance, and escape the stereotypes and misconceptions that bellydance has acquired. It is time for bellydance to be portrayed and understood for what it really is. Every dancer is an ambassador to this art form, and it is every dancers responsibility to educate the public, and our students to the best of our ability.

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Questions about being booked for a "Girls Night Out" belly dance lesson

2009-09-30T13:17:26Z

I have been asked to do a “girls night out” belly dance lesson in which I would teach a short, simple, sensual, and easy choreography to women who have never belly danced before. The woman coordinating the event wants it to be something that will give the women an ego boost and hopes it will encourage them to start taking lessons.

Since I have never done a girls night out (or bachelorette party) before, I had some questions:

1. What do you charge? (the woman suggested $100 up front and then $10-15 a head)

2. What do you wear? I’m thinking a full, sparkly cabaret costume might be a bit much. Perhaps dance pants, coin scarf, a wrap top, and some belly dance jewelry? (Belly dance semi-formal/business casual?)

3. Do you bring hip scarves for the women to use while dancing?

4. Do you bring hip scarves and other belly dance items to sell?

5. Suggestions of things I might be forgetting?

I'll admit, I was somewhat taken aback when the woman said she wanted an hour long lesson in which these women actually learn an entire choreography. o_O Do you think her request is realistic?

If there is already a thread on this, please, point the way. I did a search but couldn’t find one. :)

Thank you for any help!

-Jen

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New member intro

2009-09-28T21:34:55Z

Hello! My name is Soleil and I live between Dallas and Shreveport.
One day I hope to perform and maybe even professionaly. Who knows!
But I thought it best to study about performing first.
Thank you for accepting my membership. This way I can post questions as they come up.
See you on the dancefloor!

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When is it time?

2009-09-27T18:51:17Z

Hi-I tried searching on this and couldn't find exactly what I needed...but was hoping for some advice. My group has gotten pretty successful in a short amount of time. I was wondering when and if it was lucrative to get a business license?

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Best way to offer workshop services?

2009-09-23T04:55:14Z

I have been teaching a "Makeup & Hair for Belly Dancers" workshop here locally for about 2 years now. I am now at the point where I'd like to "take it on the road", so to speak, and offer this workshop to other venues/teachers/workshop sponsors regionally. My question is -- how do I tactfully & professionally put my services out there for offer? Should I send out Press Kits, like Lara was talking about earlier? Should I send out invitations for them to attend a current workshop? If they've already attended one that I've produced, how do I let them know that I am available "for hire" as well? I am new to this side of the fence, so any suggestions of what to do & what NOT to do would be much appreciated.

Thank you.

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Pixie Vision Photo Shoots

2009-09-22T20:36:02Z

The traveling photo studio of Pixie Vision Productions is coming to a town near you!

I am based in Los Angeles but will be setting up in cities below. I shoot families, pets, musicians, hoopers, fire and events at $300 per hour. My most recent portfolio can be found at http://www.pixievisionproductions.com/gallery/portfolio

Please see below for my schedule and let me know if you'd like to book a shoot! Payment plans are available where you can pay $100 now to reserve the time and the balance up to two months after the shoot :)

All the best,
Pixie
www.PixieVisionProductions.com

SCHEDULE
11/4, 11/5, 11/6, 11/7 – Baltimore, Maryland

11/9, 11/10, 11/11 – Shrewsbury, Pennsylvania

1/21, 1/22, 1/23, 1/24 - Portland, Oregon

1/26, 1/27, 1/28 – Seattle, Washington

5/3, 5/4, 5/5 – San Francisco, California

5/7, 5/8, 5/9, 5/10, 5/11 – Sebastopol, California - a few days before Tribal Fest - $250/hr rate for registrants www.BlackSheepBellyDance.com

6/7, 6/8, 6/9, 6/10 – Chicago, Illinois

9/6, 9/7, 9/8, 9/9 – Las Vegas - a few days before LV Intensive - $250/hr rate for registrants www.bellydanceintensive.com

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Introduction

2009-09-18T20:40:06Z

hi Everyone,

I'm new on this board but I've been lurking for a while. I'm just beginning to dip my toes in the professional waters so I love reading the posts here.

I've been dancing for about a decade. I live in Washington, DC and study with Yasmin. I working on starting a small basics/fitness style class.

Thanks for letting me join!

Farah-Abi

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A CALL TO ALL FORMER WAMEDA PRESIDENTS AND NOMINATING COMMITTEE MEMBERS

2009-09-18T20:38:50Z

Hello everyone out there in Ttribe Land.........
This is a call to all WAMEDA former presidents and Nominating Committee members.
I'd like to know from your past election experiences.
I NEED to know from your past election experiences.
Please contact me.
If you are a WAMEDA member, please consider running for Board of Directors
and if you can't run for office, please please please vote.
ALL of your votes are important and THEY DO MATTER!!!!!

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Miles Copeland writes about bringing foreigh nationals for workshops

2009-09-15T22:57:48Z

http://www.gildedserpent.com/cms/2009/09/11/milesvisataxes/

tourist visa vs work visas, taxes, etc

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I'm too nice... help!

2009-09-15T00:22:49Z

This is more for my other business, but applies to my dance business as well- I constantly get calls from companies who want to 'help me with my business' either with improving my credit ratings for when other companies want to deal with us (like Dunn & Bradstreet) or for furthering online client contacts, etc- In both my dance & other business, we are tiny & local & it honestly doesn't make sense to reach out to the whole world- with shipping to & from Alaska, we can't compete with other companies online anyway & I have no ambtions of "going global." Yes, local customers find us online too & we need to have a web presence, but it would never be cost effective to spend $200-$1000 a month in online anything for us. It drives me nuts that folks think that anyone with a registered business license over 5 years old must have at least 6 employees and be trying to take over the world.

But I sit through the stupid phone calls & the 'but wouldn't it be better' questions etc. anyway, & I am just sick & tired of being polite, but I can't help it. Can someone coach me on how to get out of pointless spiels about services I know from the first second that I don't want in under 5 minutes? Can someone just give me a backbone transplant or something?

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Getting Sponsors

2009-09-13T04:04:23Z

Okay, I hate soliciting people, but the fact is, it's an overwhelmingly good idea to get local sponsors for the show I'm putting on. How do I approach them? I have some businesses lined up. How much do I ask them for? What is the typical ad price in a program for 1/4 pg, 1/2 pg and full page? Things to keep in mind are: I'm in New Mexico (it's not a wealthy state) and these are small local shops. Any advice is truly appreciated. Thanks!

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Ethics on building your student base

2009-09-03T15:00:04Z

I am an instructor in a mid sized town that boasts quite a few dance instructors (all originating from the same dance company/director) and I wanted some advice on building a student base but want to avoid stepping on any toes. Any advice on do's and don'ts?

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Is there a need for business / other topic classes?

2009-09-01T07:59:03Z

Hello everyone,

I really enjoy this tribe because there's so many great topics of discussion, thank you.

I've recently become self employed and have been doing a lot of soul searching about my new business and about my belly dance business. There are so many things to conisder when starting and running a business and I was wondering if there is a need out there for a class on basic business practices (specifically starting and running your own independent business)?

I ask because I do commercial real estate, and so many times I have seen new business owners with stars in thier eyes, get themselves into trouble because they have a great idea, or service, but no skills in how to make that into a profit center for them. Especially creative people, because they are excellent at their craft, but the business side of things really bores the heck out the them, and it can really cost them by not paying attention to it.

If a 1-2 hour class was offered at a weekend workshop, would you consider taking it?

I would cover the basics like: marketing, taxes, bookkeeping, ethics, etc. What else would you like to see covered?

I'm just curious if this is a viable topic.

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What other learning has aided you in your dance journey?

2009-08-29T17:33:52Z

Hi Everyone!

Im looking to study something - what things(outside of dance classes and workshops) have you studied that have been of use to you in your dance business?

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Attitudes for the Stage

2009-08-29T15:13:46Z

Article, The Quintessential Performer by Najia Marlyz on the Gilded Serpent.
http://www.gildedserpent.com/cms/2009/05/03/najiaquintperformer/

What do you like from the article? Why?
What do you disagree with in the article? Why?

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Good Egyptian Music

2009-08-28T01:09:00Z

Hi everyone!
I would like your recommendations for good Classical Egyptian and Egyptian Pop music. I've recently gotten a gig at a restaurant and this is the general style that the owner likes. Nothing too Americanized or hip-hoppey. I would like to have a nice collection of music to rotate, so any suggestions would be great. ^_^
Thanks in advance,

Nefabit

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Handling consignment vs "showroom" merchandise?

2009-08-20T06:26:42Z

Hello,

I need some advice please.

I am opening studio in a month, and will be doing some retail sales of items, but some of the teachers that will be renting space from me would like to put up their items for sale (very different than what I will offer, I tend to specialize in Tribal, or beginners types items like zills and practice hip scarves). I would like to give these teachers the opportunities to offer a sampling of their items by letting them display a ‘showroom” (perhaps a display case of examples) and then have the customers deal with the instructors instead of me being a middle person. At least I think that is what I want to do; consignment sounds like a lot more work and bookkeeping for me and I have enough going on already.

So, how do I charge for this service? They are using space that I provide, and could be used for my own retail so I think it fair to charge a fee for this service. Or is that not the way this type of arrangement goes??

Your suggestions are appreciated!

Joyce

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Liability Insurance for Dance Teachers

2009-08-13T01:22:11Z

We are researching liability insurance for a dance studio we are considering renting. Has anyone used Venbrook Insurance Services (http://www.myfitnessinsurance.com/index.htm)? They specialize in liability insurance for "physical fitness professionals" including dance teachers. The premiums seem very reasonable, actually much lower than other quotes we have gotten locally (covers both studio "slip on a banana peel" as well as dance class injuries). Just wondering if it is too good to be true???

Anyone have any input on this or other liability insurance options?

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Sending messages to friends

2009-08-12T19:59:52Z

Hey, I used to be able to send a message to all my friends. With the recent tribe update I've seem to have lost this option and can only send to a selected friend. What's up?

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Persian Pop Music

2009-08-06T22:53:16Z

Hello everyone! I am on the hunt for some good current Persian pop music to add to the end of my dance show at a local Iranian restaurant. Any suggestions for music that would be a hit with a family crowd at a mid-range restaurant venue?

Thanks in advance!

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Ethics of "tagging" (X-post from another tribe)

2009-08-06T20:52:54Z

So I originally posted this on the "Too Much Drama to Dance" tribe, but thought it appropriate for discussion here too.

I'm just wondering what are people's thoughts on how to "tag" YouTube videos? I've seen some that get "under-tagged" and even though they are awesome and with famous dancers no one ever sees them, and on the other side there are people who "over-tag" their videos just to get them played more often. If you want to put "bellydance" in as many languages and terms as possible, I think that's smart, but when you start tagging other famous dancer's names I have a problem. I've seen it many times but just ran across a video (and the dancer will not be named) who tagged several BDSS members and a few other famous dancers. Someone commented and called out the dancer saying it was kind of sneaky, and the poster responded asking if they still liked the video, and anyway this dancer was "good friends" with them so they wouldn't mind. This still didn't strike me as very ethical.

If the dancer was really good friends with the people tagged and got their permission, then fine, but I gathered from the post that this person did not ask their permission. The only time (in my opinion) that it is appropriate to tag another dancer in your YouTube video is a) if it is a choreography by that dancer, in which case you should give credit where credit is due b) you are in a dance company with the other dancers, and are representing the troupe c) if you have studied with that person EXTENSIVELY - such as a licensure program - and are representing your teachers style d) that "tagged" dancers are aware of and have approved of being tagged.

I think the problem is not only people taking credit for another dancer's ability to build their name, but also the possibility that it will reflect on the "tagged dancers" in a way that they are not open to.

Any thoughts? Or am I just being a cranky b**** who needs to stop wasting time on YouTube?

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Choreographer's fee

2009-08-05T23:34:06Z

Does anyone have experience with that? If for example a performer would like to use a choreography taught by me in a workshop at paid events, what is the usual percentage/fee that the choreographer gets? And also do you make a difference if the performer is a regular student?
Any input greatly appreciated! ;-))

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writing a good bio

2009-08-05T11:59:07Z

Hello!

I need to write a good bio to go onto event advertising etc. I've looked at other dancers bio's and Im wondering if a big list of all your teachers and workshops is really the way to go. If not then what do you write?

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Retirement plans for independent professionals?

2009-08-02T15:24:42Z

Hello braintrust! I'm embarking on making teaching dance my primary income, and I am researching retirement funds.... What do you recommend for an independent contractor... IRA? Roth IRA? SIMPLE IRA? There are so many, I'm not sure which way to go!

Thanks in advance!

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Press kit?

2009-07-28T16:37:02Z

So- what does your standard press kit look like? I would love to know how to improve mine, or if I'm on the right track.

business "press kit" (is there a different term when it's not going to the press?)
for now, I have a clear folder with pockets so my name & face are right there on the cover, but am looking at having some white folders printed with my cover on it (generic enough I can use it for multiple purposes)
-letter of introduction & intent
-page describing services & advantages to patron (3 pictures)- in one case combined with rate page
-page describing special services (depending on whether we're looking at classes or performance, this may end up varying, but basically, props & specialties, again with plenty of pictures)
-rate page (2 pictures) varies depending on venue (if I am listing corporate packages, looking for multiple bookings at a restaurant, appealing to small parties, etc.)
-should I include a sample contract???
-DVD with sample clips of dancing- CD with bio & pictures upon request for promotional purposes.

There are certain places I wouldn't include a rate page- one or two local businesses I know would be offended since they have a very 'small town, we'll take care of you' attitude, for example.

Media press kit:
hard copy & on CD & it also gets emailed a fair bit- depending on what they prefer.
-short bio
-short info on the dance (canned statement of what everyone asks anyway!)
-B&W & color photos- head shot & action shot
-List of previous press publication (photo copies or scans if available)
-Description of specific events

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Tales of Desire, A Tribal Fusion Bellydance Experience - NOW ON DVD

2009-07-28T00:49:40Z

We are proud to announce the DVD release of Tales of Desire, A Tribal Fusion Bellydance Experience.

Be mesmerized by today's most influential tribal-fusion bellydance artists as they present Tales of Desire, a creative interpretation of desire through dance.

Unmata: Flaco 81
Arish Lam: The Noble and the Wicked
Sherri / Cherchez La Femme: The Alchemy of Salvation
The Nekyia: Kalypso
Mira Betz: Not Without
Steven: Bol Three
She‘enedra Catherine's Mood
Elizabeth Strong: Afghani Song
Aubre and Lumina Bellydance Company: Fosse Fusion
Sabrina Fox: Sentries & Serpents
Damage Control Dance Company: The Hunt
Bonus: Behind the Scenes Footage

Preview this DVD and get your copy now at:

https://www.hollywoodmusiccenter.com/productDetails.php?productId=1436

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A question for workshop sponsors: instructors with young children

2009-07-25T21:38:35Z

Hi Everyone

I am currently 5 months pregnant with my first baby. In the past few years I have been lucky enough to get great workshop gigs all over the world, and I don't want to have to give that up when the baby comes. I can't really leave an infant at home for a week at a time, so I am thinking that I might just bring her along on my travels. I'm wondering how many workshop instructors do this. I know that Suhaila has always traveled with her daughter, even when she was very young. Is it unusual/unreasonable to ask a workshop sponsor to arrange childcare while I'm teaching (even if I pay for it)? Would it be completely unreasonable to schedule baby feeding breaks into a busy workshop weekend? Am I completely crazy to think that I can do this?

Belly dance is a celebration of the female body, and certainly motherhood is all part of that. But I'm wondering just how baby friendly the workshop business practices really are. I'd love to hear about your experiences.

Thanks,
Michelle

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corporate contract help?

2009-07-25T02:03:24Z

A certain local gym has approached me several times about holding occasional classes at their facility, but never follows up. I would like to drop off a proposal, but I'd like some input- here is what I have so far for a proposed contract- in my own classes, I have students sign a release of liability waiver too- is that something that could/should be included here, & if so, how would you word it? Anything I missed?

Many thanks!
Lara

Instructor (Lara xxx) shall provide four classes, consisting of one hour of instruction in Middle Eastern Dance (Belly Dance.) Classes may be held at any of the sponsor’s (xxxx) locations and must be scheduled within a 2 month time period, beginning at the first class offered.

Instructors fee of $75 per class shall be paid upon the completion of each class. Please note that the regular fees for a one hour class are $125. If the sponsor fails to schedule 4 classes within the 2 month time period, all class fees shall revert to the non-discounted rate and shall be paid in full no later than 30 days after the 2 month contract period has ended.

All classes shall be scheduled with at least 2 weeks notice. In case of illness, extreme weather, family emergency or natural disaster, classes may be rescheduled to a time of mutual convenience if notice is given within 36 hours of the originally scheduled time.

Upon request, Alaska Awalim shall list sponsor’s classes on the company weblog and shall provide sponsor with pictures and information which may be used to promote this class; all other class promotion shall be the sole responsibility of the sponsor. Promotional materials provided by Alaska Awalim may only be used to promote events or services directly involving Alaska Awalim.

Sponsor shall provide a suitable space for class, clear of obstacles and sufficient to accommodate all students present. Sponsor shall be responsible for determining class size and registration requirements.

Alaska Awalim shall proved music used for class. Sound equipment shall be provided by __________________. Instructor shall arrive with sufficient time to ensure the proper set up and functioning of any sound equipment with the music provided by instructor.

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Selling T-shirts

2009-07-24T17:39:38Z

Hey all!

My troupe has been getting a lot of requests for promo shirts and I'm not sure where to start. I can make the designs easily and I had a few made locally but I'm looking for a better place to purchase bulk clothing and get printing done so I can sell them at an affordable price. I've done some google-ing and emailing but I just don't know where to start...

Any recommendations? All help is appreciated! Thanks!!

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pro strategies while pregnant?

2009-07-22T06:56:30Z

I live in a small town. there are a lot of (good!) dancers and no regular gigs anywhere. I was all set to start aggressively marketing & approaching restaurant owners, hotels with reputable lounges, etc when I found out I am pregnant. again. I'm at 18 weeks now, so starting to show, and I know (from my previous pregnancies) how unpredictable pregnancies can be. I plan on dancing at dance community events & teaching all the way through, but I don't dare enter into a contract at this point! I am 32, so I am starting to feel a time crunch as far as having any kind of professional dance career outside of teaching. Is there anything I can do while pregnant to try to develop venues, or do I need to wait to get my body 'back'? I know first impressions count for so much when trying to open up venues.

While we're at it, any other tips for convincing *anyone* that hiring a dancer would benefit their business? I've got photos, press kits, rate sheets, sample contracts etc, but I don't really know what I'm doing when approaching potential venues (as opposed to promoting an existing show)

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Something wierd going on wih bhuz?

2009-07-19T21:42:33Z

Okay, I feel bad posting about bhuz on tribe but the last couple of days I have a hard time logging in to bhuz. My computer keeps clicking and clicking...reminds me of the busy signal from the old analog phones.....

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Moving to Madison, Wisconsin

2009-07-17T01:19:37Z

HI people, I'm moving to Madison next year and wondering what the bellydance scene is like over there, any news welcome :-)
Dawn x

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How much credit to give?

2009-07-15T12:47:46Z

Spinning off from the "Other Teachers' material" topic, how much credit and dance history should we give as we teach (class or workshop)?

'Round these parts, the majority of students in my classes and workshops are new to bellydance, do not have a sense of its history, and frankly get glazed eyes when I go into all the Jamila-Masha-Carolena/Jamila-Suhaila Format/ Egyptian-Cabaret-Tribal-ATS-Fusion (and try to fit tAisha Ali and the Great Cabaret-Tribal Schism in there too)
Honestly, they just wanna learn some moves and go on with their life. So, my roots are tribal, heavy on the ATS, but I also utilize a lot of Suhaila's technique because, well, it's solid. I give credit as I teach, or at least I try to, and I teach combos from "Big Name" dancers I've learned from. But I'll tell you, when I say "this is from Jill Parker" I get a room full of blank stares. And Gods, have you ever tried to explain how and why ATS and Jamila/Suhaila Basic Egyptians are different? Sheesh!

Where is the line between giving appropriate credits/dance history and turning students off? How do you find it and walk it?

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Hello, I am new

2009-07-13T06:17:35Z

I am Fotia - just want to say hi. I am anxious to really jump into this tribe and see all the good stuff going on!

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Dina in Chicago Nov 2009 $199 Early bird special

2009-07-11T15:55:09Z

http://www.littleegypt.com/dina2009.htm

Dina was originally scheduled to come in May 2009 but was cancelled due to swine flu fears. At that time the price was $299 for the weekend. Dina has rescheduled for Nov. Anyone who pre-paid the $299 will be credited in August for the new early bird price of $199. That is just an awesome price for a 3 day weekend! 2 shows, 2 workshops a dinner and Dina! I can't wait!

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New Studio Considerations

2009-07-07T14:50:22Z

Hello,

So, as mentioned in a previous thread where I was asking about flooring, I am considering opening a studio and wonder if you have any advice for me. I asked about this on a yahoo list but only got a couple replies (though one of them was GREAT, thanks again Shay :), so I figured I would try here too.

Been teaching for 4 years; in that time I have been renting space from other studios, and have had to change locations 5 times due to my time slot becoming unavailable, or the most current issue is they no
longer have room for any of my classes (or the other MED classes that are renting from the same location) starting in the fall.

I have weighed the cost benefits of renting, and getting my schedule changed around due to being a renter, and am seriously considering opening my own studio. This has been something I have been thinking about doing for a couple years now, so I am not just jumping into this blindly, but as I have never opened a business like this before, I could use advice!

I am looking at space that costs more than I pay for rent, but I don’t expect to use the space the whole time, I think I would get into the business of renting out space to other instructors and have had some interest already, even before it is finalized. I am still in the planning phase but I think things are going to be moving quickly in the next 2 weeks for the space I have looked at which is plenty big enough for me now, and has some room to grow and support workshops suitable for my area.

Right now the lease is something I can mange between my classes and renting out space (and I have crunched the numbers so I know how much ‘rental income’ I need to feel secure before committing to this). I am in the process of securing renters now (I have half of what I need already), and think I have thought of most everything from a financial standpoint, from startup costs like sound system, mirror installation, seating for the waiting area, changing room area, etc, I have my own personal fitness insurance already, am investigating building rental/theft insurance and will be meeting with my local small business economic development center next week to work out a business plan.

This place seem so perfect and things seem to be falling into place so well… so many things about this location are so perfect (central downtown location, lots of parking) and the owners seem really motivated to get me in (so much so they are willing to consider building the floor for me as part of my lease arrangement!) that it almost seems some other force is at work :)

And do any of you have any advice for a tentative first time studio owner? Other than figuring out how to budget to cover costs, and how to be a teacher, I know nothing about running a studio so would appreciate any and all words of wisdom.

And, does anyone know what the approx ASCAP/BMI costs for music in the studio might be? I put in a request for a quote on their website mid last week but haven't heard back yet so that is my biggest wildcard right now....

Thanks in advance,

Joyce

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1099 forms

2009-07-06T21:13:37Z

Hey, do any of you have experience with 1099 forms (independent contractor)? I was hired to teach at a dance studio and they had me fill one out. I'm trying to understand the full detail of what this means and my responsibilities, since I know it requires more of me than a regular employment arrangement. Do any of you work as independent contractors? Any helpful links/advice appreciated!

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Costume Designers

2009-07-06T20:32:29Z

Hey everyone!
I am in desperate need of a new solo costume or two, since business is good I need a greater rotation of costumes!
I was wondering if anyone has favorite costume designers links they'd like to share. I haven't had the luxury of buying a new costume in while, so I want to make a really good decision.
I'm strictly a cabaret style dancer and I prefer Turkish style costumes with lots of sparkle. I'm a big fan of jewels. ^_^
Thanks everyone!

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wholesale swords?

2009-07-06T16:22:11Z

I have been looking for a year and STILL have not found a wholesale/bulk discount supplier for dance swords. I am looking for beginner but nice swords for my annual sword workshop- I will need at least 6 and don't really want to order more than 12- I'm okay with those goofy lion head ones but would prefer more scimitar style than saber, but I'll take anything that isn't plain chintzy at this point! any leads at all?

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Sole Proprietor vs LLC vs S-Corp?

2009-07-06T03:03:41Z

Hello,

I am moving forward with my plans to open a studio. I currently teach and claim my income on my schedule C as a sole Proprietor, but am wondering if I should look to creating an LLC before I proceed with the business.

For those of you who have followed a similar path of opening a studio, how did you do it, and why did you decide to do what you did??

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Teaching other dancers’ workshop material?

2009-07-05T14:51:02Z

I recently went to a belly dance convention and one of the workshop teachers (who was also one of the hostesses) was offering a workshop on other dancers’ material. The blurb stated:

"Ultimate Belly Dance Combos
Are you a fan of Mardi Love? What about Onca, Jillia, Fredireque or Sandra of San Francisco? Haven't had the money or time to travel to the big events like Tribal Fest, Tribal Revolutions, or the Miami Bellydance Convention? Well, here is your chance to learn some of the highlights from workshops taught at those events. [Teacher Name Removed] will teach a 'greatest hits' of combos learned from these expert bellydancers then coach you in ways to combine and deconstruct the combos to use them in your own choreographies."

This struck me as unethical. She’s taking other dancers’ workshop lessons and using them for her own profit. But I wondered if there is another side? What do you think? Theft or can you see legitimacy in this?

I’m sure she didn't have time to do a lot from each of the dancers listed above, so she didn't teach their entire workshops, and she added a layer by talking about ways to “combine and deconstruct the combos” but the concept still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Thoughts?

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Tipping the band

2009-06-27T19:41:18Z

I am wondering what are the current rates for tipping out your band at a restarunt gig. I have heard from 15%-50%. I would personally never agree to giving up half my tips since I know bands get paid better than the dancer.

So is it the 15% like a waitress tips out her bartender or more? Does it make a differnece regionally(I am in a plains state)?

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New Email Scam?

2009-06-25T14:25:37Z

Got this in my inbox yesterday:

______________________________
Subject: Dance Enquiry..

Hello,

I'm looking for an experienced choreograph/Dance Instructor that could take about 12 individual for a dance training? What can your establishment offer with regards to the request above?

I would like to know what is required cost implication and any other thing that will be require for a successful training for at least four weeks between the month of September and October 2009.
Kindly get back to me if you can offer any tin by a return mail via this email with details.

Best regards,
Jones Watson
_____________________________

with this follow-up today:

_____________________________

Hello,

Please do get back to me with with details required?

Regards.
Jones Watson.
_____________________________

?????????????

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Options for Studio Dance flooring?

2009-06-17T20:01:17Z

Hello,

I am considering opening my own dance studio. Very much in the planning and feasibility study stages but I am currently looking at leasing a space that needs the floor redone (it was a pool hall, and has very dirty old carpet, which appears to be just on top of concrete, that will need to be replaced). The owners are open to putting in flooring for me, provided that falls within a reasonable price. I don’t foresee true sprung floors, but perhaps see a nice wood floor with underlayment that offers some spring.

My question is, for those of you that have done this before, what are the things I need to be sure doesn’t get installed, and conversely, what might be the best, and most cost effective ways to approach this? The space is just over 1700 square feet, and I have indicated I need at least 2/3 of the floor with ‘dance floor’.

Thanks in advance!

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dancing/teaching in germany

2009-06-17T09:58:10Z

I am moving to germany shortly (army family) and i plan to do shows that as soon as we get settled, not to mention being that europe has a lack of tribal dancers (being that ats is american) i want to do low scale beginners lessons....i am not qualified to do advanced lessons yet, but beginner level....

i plan to one day get certifiation to teach actual ats...

but anyways here is the question. for anyone tht has ever worked in europe. do i need a license in germany to dance and make profit? and for the teaching? for the teaching i planned just simple in home lessons, possibly working with the local military gym to help out with teaching classes. i know for certain countires you need an actual icense to dance...and i was not sur eif germany is one of them. of course i realize once i arrive in germany i have to get everything set up and check but just trying ot get a heads up right now.

to add in...if anyone knows anyone in the belly dance business located near wiesbaden, i would greatly appreciate a link or contact email. other than dancing myself and helping others get into it, i of course want to keep training and learn from new dancers so it is vital i learn the german dance scene asap!

thanks for your time ladies

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what's an "attack site"

2009-06-16T06:54:40Z

I just tried to go to hipcircle, if anyone knows that site, & a page came up that said it was an attack site - never had that problem before. I didn't click thru, obviously. Can anyone explain?

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The vendor client relationship

2009-06-15T17:04:09Z

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2a8TRSgzZY

This has been making the rounds, along with an oldie but goodie by Harlan Ellison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE

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Ethics and territory question

2009-06-15T06:50:54Z

Hi ladies I'd love some advice on a situation I'm finding myself in. My family has a house in another state that is driving distance from my home. Once a month I go up to stay with my parents and see my grandparents. I have been looking for places up in the area to see dancers or maybe even drop in on a class, but I have found nothing. I emailed a few local establishements to see if they had dancers and one emailed me back asking if I would be interested in dancing there. This would be a great use of the many hours of free time I have while stuck in the boonies, and I'm not averse to it, but I wonder if it's okay as far as community and territory goes. I've emailed a dancer I know from the state to ask what the price range is for the area before I meet with the owner, but I don't want people to think I'm moving in on their turf.

I should include the caveat that the place in question has never had dancers before so it would be a new venue and I'm completely open to kicking the gig over to a local dancer if they start asking for more then the once monthly performance I can do.

Any suggesionts, hints, advice?

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Just got back from the Dallas Museum of Art for King Tut...

2009-06-13T02:23:21Z

and I wanted to share some pics I uploaded from our show (click on my link and go to my photos - there are 7-8 of them). Starbucks sponsored us coming in to do a completely original show for the Dallas museum of Art for the final weekend of the King Tut Exhibition. Backdrops designed and painted by me. Anubis and all other costumes (except mine) made by our costumer. Any silk you see draped or in costumes dyed and treated by me for our costumer to use. Deniz did all choreos except mine (I did the cane, the folkloric was an adaptation of a choreo taught to me by Becky Parlette).

I was very happy to hear from the Museum personnel that we exceeded all expectations and they would be recommending us to Indiana King Tut Exhibit - hope they bite. =)

Just had to share. Thanks for putting up with my shameless show-offed-ness. Now I have to go to bed and get up early for school (which is why I'm not here so often anymore...)

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Help gathering relevent poll questions for belly dance market research

2009-06-10T07:25:57Z

Ok so I am still doing research for school, and I am going to be attending TribalFest here in a week. I've decided to take a poll while I am immersed in the tribal belly dance community. I am looking for additional relevant questions that will help me get a well rounded idea of who the tribal belly dance market is. This is the rough list I have thus far:

Age
Where are you from?
How long have they been dancing?
Do you perform? How often?
Do you primarily learn from a teacher, workshops, DVDs, ???, other...
Is this your first workshop?
Is this your first TribalFest?
About how many teachers are in their town?
How do they keep up with the belly dance world happenings?

I know there are so many other relevant things to ask, but I am blocked at the moment. If you could help me, any and all ideas are much appreciated!

Thank you so very much,
Alison Leigh

Thanks to everyone who has been helping me along with my research!

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Hobby vs. business

2009-06-09T14:26:04Z

I'm wondering at what point one becomes a business and needs a license and such, instead of being a 'crafter'. Is it different state-by-state? If so, does anyone know about oregon? I have no idea even where to start.

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Help photo problemo

2009-06-09T12:43:05Z

I teach from a community centre that also offers a variety of other classes. They have a printed programme of whats on offer - like Tabe tennis - thursdays 3 -4 pm call Jane 222 22222 with a little clip art picture next to the info.

The printers have put a photo of another dancer next to my name - 100's of these flyers have been printed. I have spoken to the office staff about it and they say the printers got this photo from a clip art program, I doubt this very much - I think they just googled "Bellydancer" and her pic came up. . The office says that all they can do is ask the printers to remove the photo for the next run of flyers.

I feel dreadful about this, and I dont know how to proceed. Do I cover her photo with a sticker? Do I tell her about it and hope she doesn't sue me?

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Internet scam strikes again -new target audience

2009-06-08T20:24:07Z

I think many of you are aware of the emails trying to attract and scam dance teachers. Now they are targeting attorneys! I just received this from the State Bar of MI.

Attempted Internet Scam involving Michigan Trust Account
A Michigan law firm recently narrowly avoided an internet scam that has ensnared some attorneys in other states. We are reporting the scam to put members on notice to exercise extra diligence when presented with circumstances similar to those noted below.
The scam works like this - the law firm receives a referral from someone posing as an outstate attorney to enforce a simple contract dispute or collect a debt from a local corporation owed to a foreign company, normally Taiwanese (although any foreign company would work - the time difference complicates communications). The law firm, believing it is exercising due diligence, confirms that the prospective client is a real company trading on the Taiwanese stock exchange and then enters into a fee agreement, thereby placing itself in the trap. It sends a demand letter, and a month later receives a cashier's check in full payment, made payable to the law firm. The client is pleased and directs the law firm to wire the money, after deducting its fees and costs. The law firm deposits the money in its client trust account, waits for the check to clear the local bank, and wires the money to the client. Things fall apart when the bank on which the check is drawn notifies everyone that the check is a counterfeit fraud - by which time it is too late to stop the wire transfer, and the law firm's client trust account is now out the proceeds, which the firm has to replace. The scam works because the law firm erroneously believes that the check is good when it clears the law firm's bank. That is not the case. The first clearance is only provisional. The bank on which the check is drawn has additional time under the law to verify the check.
In the case of the Michigan law firm, one of its members became suspicious when the payment check arrived. It had all occurred too easily, without litigation, and with full payment. He checked the name and telephone number of the Alabama attorney who referred the case, called him, and discovered someone posing as the attorney had made the referral.
Beware of similar circumstances. Remember, those engaged in these schemes are devious and will use the names of actual companies, client contacts, and referring attorneys in an effort to sell the scam. If you suspect you have encountered a similar situation, two steps that may be helpful are: a) independently verifying the names and contact information provided to you, making contact with appropriate persons to verify the representation; and b) not disbursing the deposited funds until the bank on which the cashier's check is drawn clears the check; in some cases it is possible that could take up to a week or more, but if you keep a copy of the check, you could call the bank on which it is drawn to see if they will advise you when it will be or was paid.

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Show organizers: enforcing time limits?

2009-06-01T21:20:49Z

I recently danced in a show in which several of the performers ignored the instructions from the organizers to keep their sets at 10 minutes or less. Some even had sets as long as 20 minutes. A show that was supposed to end at 9:00 didn't even start its second half until 9:00.

I will soon be meeting with the organizers to talk about things they could do to enforce whatever time limit they choose to set for their performers. I have some thoughts on what to suggest, but I'd be interested in hearing what others think as well.

How do YOU enforce whatever time limit you set for performers in the shows you organize?

Do you ask for the music in advance and check how long it is, and refuse to let them swap in something else at the last minute?

Do you have a stage manager with a strong personality who instructs the sound engineer to stop the music promptly when performer has reached the end of the allotted time frame, thereby embarrassing the offender and making him/her walk off stage in silence?

Do you threaten that anybody who exceeds the allotted time will not be invited back to perform in your future shows? If so, do the threats work?

Interested in hearing what works for all of you!

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Lighting

2009-05-31T15:06:04Z

Does anyone bring their own "stage floor" lights to certain gigs? Like the ones that add warm hues to a performance? If so what kind do you have?

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recommendations on free webhosting?

2009-05-27T12:22:51Z

I just signed onto my geocities page and yahoo is discontinuing geocities sometimes this summer.
I wrote everything in html myself orginally for a computer class project. Then it grew from there. I use it to put information out there regarding local/regional events, my classes, other local instructors, and that kind of thing. No selling or anything like that, just information.

Does anyone know anything about brave.net?
Thanks!

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How to measure your worth?

2009-05-18T19:26:41Z

So I have danced at many places in my city. I am also just starting out. Many people come up to me after my performances and tell me I did a really great job. But sometimes I never get called back by the manager of the restauraunt/venue even though they intended to have a weekly or monthly gig for me. I just do not know which side to pay attention to, the crowd? or the management? I would love to hear what all of you more experienced performers have to say.

Thanks!

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Professionalism: part-time belly dancers vs. coworkers

2009-05-12T05:05:56Z

This title doesn't sound at all like what I meant it to be, but I am not sure how to condense this topic into just a few words, so please bear with me and read on.

This is a topic for any dancer (professional or not) who performs publicly and for whom dancing is a big part of life, but who also holds a "day job."

What is, according to your opinion and experience, the proper separation between your dance hobbie/job and your office-or-whatever-else job? Do you or have you ever mentioned your belly dance hobbie/job to a co-worker or even a boss? In what context is it acceptable to do so? What's not acceptable, and where would a line be crossed?
If a co-worker shows interest in attending one of your performances as a result, do you give them the appropriate information and welcome them to come?

I would greatly appreciate some opinions and tales of experience! Perhaps I will post my own and give some context to this question later on, if we can get a discussion going on here.

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Is this extremeism

2009-05-11T11:02:12Z

This was posted on the Cairo Carnival website (or their tribe, dont' recall which)

"Attention Dancers
For the privacy of each dancer and to prevent unauthorized Internet Video posting

INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILIES

ABSOLUTELY NO VIDEOS
ALLOWED DURING THE SCHEDULED DANCING ON ANY STAGE
INCLUDING CELL PHONES
and behaviors deemed to appear like video taping.

Violators may be escorted from the Cairo Caravan for ignoring this policy."

**************
Now, I DO see their point about 'protecting the performers' from having their images 'stolen'......but it is REALLY their "JOB" to do that?
Really, I think this is just a way to be sure you buy their Videographer's DVD.
As I recall from years past, Rekkassah has had the same nazi policy - which THEY HAD before their ever WAS a youtube !

I mean, this 'rule' makes it clear that if your Aunt Jane comes to see you dance, and maybe you haven't communicated with her about this rule, and she happens to end up shooting you with her iphone......SHE might be REMOVED from the event while you're performing!
And has anyone ever REALLY had issues with their performance being 'stolen' and placed on youtube ?

Your thoughts on this, pls.

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Is anyone else experimenting with twitter?

2009-05-08T15:52:06Z

Yesterday, I attended a web conference in my day job on which someone did a presentation about twitter. I'd heard of it before, but hadn't felt motivated to try it myself.

Until now.

I've decided to go ahead and give it a try. So I signed up yesterday after her presentation.

So far, in my searching, I've found a lot of mentions of belly dance. The overwhelming majority seem to be belly dance students twittering about practicing, going to class, etc, as well as twittering about their daily lives. That's not so surprising - of course there are a lot more students than there are teachers or professionals. I've found two other belly dance teachers that I know on there and sent them notes to say hi and let them know I'm on there too.

So, I'm finding my way in this interesting new world. Are any of you using twitter for dance-related stuff? Do you see it as being a good tool for growing your dance-related business? If so, how? How are you going about building up your networks?

I'm on there as @shiradotnet if anyone wants to see what I'm up to!

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Help with belly dance market research

2009-05-08T00:58:23Z

I am trying to track the growth of the belly dance market for my business class and I really don't know where else to start but here...

I'm looking for research on:

Defining the belly dance market

Addressing applicable demographics, psychographics, age brackets, and geographical segments that apply to belly dance.

Providing statistics that indicate the rate of growth of the belly dance market historically and recently.

I would truly appreciate any help or direction that anyone could/would provide me with,
Alison Leigh

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More on show organizing - children in shows?

2009-05-07T00:00:45Z

I have noticed that when shows accept children as performers, then the parents or troupe leaders become very obnoxious about demanding that their troupes be given performance slots earlier in the evening, rather than later, due to the children needing earlier bedtimes than adults. In addition, the instant the kids have left the stage, their families leave. Performers who appear later in the show then find themselves dancing to a lot of empty chairs.

Is that fair/appropriate? Should organizers communicate and enforce a rule stating that, although it's okay for kids to perform, there will be NO special accommodation of providing early time slots for them?

And how do you, as organizers, handle the issue of audience members who leave the instant their pet dancer has finished her performance?

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Whom do you use for web hosting?

2009-05-04T19:42:11Z

I have it with the company that hosts Shira.net. Over the course of fhe past year, I've had a steady stream of problems that included a 3-day outage, merger with another company that broke a bunch of the web site management tools, moving their tech support to a phone center in India whose reps refuse to open trouble tickets when I report stuff that doesn't work, having their IP addresses for their email servers blacklisted by major ISP's such as AT&T due to suspicion of them being spammer friendly, had poor usage statistics, etc.

So, avoid Valueweb and Hostway like the plague. Valueweb was the original company, Hostway is the one that merged with it.

Now, for my question:

Can you recommend a good, reliable, competent web hosting company? I need one who:

1. Offers phone support
2. Can handle a large, popular web site like Shira.net
3. Provides informative statistics on site usage
4. Lets you set up your own email addresses, including ones with forwarding and autoresponders
5. Lets you use pop and smtp to both SENDand receive your email even though your Internet access is provided by someone else (Earthlink loses on this criterion - I can receive, but not send)

So, thoughts? Recommendations?

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Getting Stickers Made

2009-05-02T23:37:35Z

I've been googling 'vinyl stickers' but my options seem overwhelming...wading through pricing, etc. I'm looking to print round or oval stickers b&w, preferably on vinyl (vs paper, so they last longer). And of course a good deal goes a long way. Any suggestions? Good experiences?
I've also thought about going the CafePress route, but am not sure that's the cheapest/easiest way to go.

How do you get your stickers made?

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showing up on google?

2009-05-02T01:46:56Z

is there a way, other than the link swap option to get your website to show up on google searches? Is it possible for a DIY-er to do it, or do you need to hire someone?

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Emergency Plans

2009-04-29T16:38:25Z

Okay, ladies and gentlemen: do you have emergency plans for your places of business? What is your fire evacuation route? Do you have your fire safety items in place (fire detectors, fire extinguishers, and do you know how to use them)? Where do you go for earthquakes or tornadoes? What is your evacuation route? As a business owner or even an employee, I feel responsible for the people that are in my place of business to be able to let them know where they should be going. It is important to have a plan and if possible, have it posted.

Here is a very good resource from FEMA:

http://www.fema.gov/areyouready/

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Backdrops question

2009-04-21T01:09:33Z

If anyone could give me some suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it.

I've been painting and dying silk for a long time now, but just as a hobby and for gifts so far. right now, I'm painting backdrops for several shows on my own dime - one of the sphinx with a sunset and pyramids, and one is of an interior temple scene. They are both 9x18 painted silk. As I get them finished I'll post pictures (each takes about 2 1/2 weeks to paint + supplies sooo...), what would you think is a fair price to rent them out would be? I'd like to recoup my money a bit, but am totally unfamiliar with this type of scenario. Do you think anyone would even be interested in renting them for their bigger shows?

Thanks to any suggestions.

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Quotes: for dance, business, teaching and inspiration

2009-04-20T01:17:57Z

I like quotes a lot. I believe they can teach us and inspire us. I actually often post them on my blog... but after seeing a lovely dancer from Pennsic with a great quote posted on her facebook page, I figured we can share the quotes that make us think, the quotes that make us grow and the quotes that inspire us in our art and/or business.
So...here is a place for quotes and commentary on quotes.
The one that inspired this thread? (thank you Majda)

When I miss class for one day, I know it.
When I miss class for two days, my teacher knows it.
When I miss class for three days, the audience knows it.

~ Rudolf Nureyev

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Outdoor Sound System

2009-04-16T00:39:01Z

We dance at an outdoor art festival and are required to provide our own sound system. What we have is not loud enough to be heard well if a band is playing half a block away or the wind is blowing (which happens a lot in west Tx.) I've looked at the Fender systems and some dj--type complete systems. All are expensive and I've like to get some recommendations or reviews before we invest.

Thanks!

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ATTENTION ALL BELLYDANCE AND TRIBAL TEACHERS!

2009-04-15T21:16:13Z

Are you a bellydance or tribal style teacher? List yourself for FREE on the www.bellydance.com Belly Dance Teacher Directory.

Complete your class info on this page:
http://bellydance.com/Bellydance-Teacher-Directory_ep_67-1.html

The teacher directory will go live on May 1, 2009

Don't miss this opportunity to be found by those looking for belly dance classes in your area.

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re the Share buttons on the threads pages....

2009-04-10T15:42:36Z

ok, this tribe is probably the place to ask - on the thread pages, there's now share links - what happens from them? I see one for fb but never see any "discussions" on fb, one reason I like tribe. Do Discussions really go to fb?

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Competitions - Which do you reccomend?

2009-04-10T01:33:22Z

Hi there everyone!
I'm thinking about taking my troupe out to a competition either late this year or sometime next year. I've been wandering around Google trying to get an idea of which one is the best . . . and I'm not having any luck, so now to solicit your collective advice!
Things I'm considering:
I'm not concerned about going somewhere close - we're up for travel.
Should have good categories - must include professional soloist and troupe divisions.
Attendance - the more people there, the better! Good, well-known titles are nice too - always good for advertising.
I'd like to go to one of the bigger ones, but I'm not sure if the more well known ones are bigger because they are better, or just because they are older.
Judges should be well rounded, and the scoring should make sense/be fair.
Prizes! We like trophies and tiaras. ^_^ But that's lowest on the list.

I'm leaning towards Bellydancer of The Universe or Belly Dance Nationals. But I'm also considering Arabesque Bellydance Competition and Wiggles of The West.

Any information you have would be excellent. I'd mostly like to hear from those who have attended competitions and can recommend them based on experience, but any input you have would be appreciated. ^_^
Thanks in advance!

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PA system/ IPOD

2009-04-08T18:09:02Z

Okay on an earlier thread I was convinced to purchase an portable PA system ...I really like it. Question though ( I am totally non techy) I also went out and purchased, believe it or not, my FIRST IPOD to dock into the new PA. I cannot get any real volume out of the PA using the little mini shuffle. works great when I dock my Heavy duty Boom box into the PA, just seems to be weak with the IPOD? I needed this for two upcoming outdoor gigs. One is a Parade and the other is a car show. I was hoping to not have to lug the Box in addition to the PA. ( not to mention batteries for the box) the PA has its own rechargable.
Looking for advice and suggestions.

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Does anyone else find this unfair?

2009-04-06T23:06:31Z

I know this isn't an original statement in the history of art business, and I'm going to try my best not to offend anyone, particularly the dancers in my area but here goes...

I am perplexed and frustrated by the difficulty in finding a place to get hired to dance here. Either the owners are very particular about what they want (style and look of dancers-"big boobs/pretty spakly girls")-which does't really get me all that enraged. Whatever, run your resturants how you want, it's the second category that really bug me. It's one woman getting paid for different time slots, to organize dancers, and the dancers recieving only tips. This happens in several resturants around town, and with a few different coordinators. Then there is also someone who puts dancers out after only a few months of classes, as "professionals" for $20-$30 an HOUR or more. SEVER UNDERCUTTING for standard rates anywhere, am I right?

All in all, it makes it feel rather impossible and riddiculous to get a paying job dancing here. I am a good dancer, and although I am still learning (who isn't?) I deserve to be paid to dance. And here's my catty side showing through but...I can follow music better than most of these dancers I keep seeing being coordinated to dance (I guess it's a little more laid back anyways, fairly much anyone can talk to whoever's coordinating, to dance), I have better stage presence, and I'm serious about what I'm doing. Maybe they are too, but I doubt many of them consider this their career of choice. Maybe noone else has a problem with all of this, but I do, and I don't understand as artists, and professionals how we can choose to undermine the importance of inner-community support, exterior presentation (i.e. the public doesn't know these arn't professionals dancing usually), and honest integrety.

Also, maybe I'm in a fairly small city compared to most large cities and the demand isn't as high for dancers, but I don't think moving would solve the problem would it? What do we do about this? Can we do anything? In the meantime, what should I do to maintain my professionalism, and get hired?

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IRS--Non-Profit Compensation Scrutiny

2009-04-06T20:20:03Z

Being a lawyer and having formed several non-profit companies, I see these things. I know some of you run non-profit academies. Most if not all of you will not chance to raise any red flags with the IRS. Just a word to the wary. The IRS is expanding its staff and lowering the thresholds that may trigger an audit of the compensation practices of non-profits. There's also a new form 990 for the first time in 20 years, and executive compensation has to be detailed more in that form.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123902531992992777.html

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Men in the studio and GLBT dancers question

2009-04-06T00:06:50Z

This is a multi-part question, so bear with me, please. :)

The studio where I take classes is very much about creating a safe space for women. I don't think men are outright told they can't take lessons there, but it is definitely advertised towards women and has a very strong women's community/safe haven/sisterhood vibe. Part of the reason for the "no men" rule/guideline is that the teacher wants to make sure we don't feel leered at in class and wants us to relax (in the past, some dancers' boyfriends would come and watch).

This got me thinking because I'm bisexual and I wondered what the difference was between the straight guys and me. I'm not in the closet, but I don't walk up to everyone and say, "Hi, I'm Jen and I'm bisexual," so some don't know. But perhaps it wouldn't bother them because, even though I'm attracted to women, I'm a woman so I have the same parts, so it's not anything novel for me (plus, I view most of them like sisters).

So, my questions: Do men take lessons in your studios? Does it matter if the man is gay or straight (perhaps a silly question, but I know a lot of people who view a gay man as "one of the girls")? How does your studio feel about GLBT dancers? Have there been issues between the dancers? Do they feel safe/comfortable enough to be out?

I don't entirely feel like all of the girls in my studio will be comfortable with me when they figure out I'm bisexual, which makes me sad because I'll lose some of that sense of community I have there. That's part of the reason I made a GLBT belly dancer and friends tribe on Tribe -- for the support/community. :)

-Jennifer
Moderator of GLOW Raqs
http://tribes.tribe.net/glowraqs

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Sponsoring a dancer

2009-04-04T21:07:16Z

What is involved with sponsoring a dancer??? What are your responsibility's? What is thiers? How does that work out?

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Help, help, the economy is falling and it can't get up!

2009-04-04T17:13:15Z

So, what do we do?
Do we panic and lower our prices? Do we hold firm? How do we stay competitive? How do we even stay afloat?

Several years ago a restaurant owner who has been running a successful venue for over 18 years now told me "the way we did it was to always adapt and change. We change to bring in new business. We think up new ideas to expand our market. The customer doesn't want things that are stale. You always need to change and keep on top of things"

Flash forward to our current economic down turn (or is it tailspin?).
What have I observed?
I've seen a few places close.
I've seen a few places schedule fewer nights for dance or cut out dance entirely (they ascribe by the "tighten your belt" theory which does make sense).
Now that we're further into the economic crisis I've noticed something different. The businesses who have been around the longest, or with owners who have run (successful) businesses the longest- THEY are working to expand their market. THEY are advertising. THEY are making changes to set them apart!
They obviously had enough success before to help them weather the storm. But then in the midst of it, they realize they need that something special to help them stay afloat, to help them be the place the clients want to spend their hard won money.
In the last two weeks I have seen one place that never had live entertainment decide to start dancing soon to broker excitement and bring new people in. Another place that has always had live music is starting to have dancing soon, thus expanding their market. Another place just expanded and renovated another floor beautifully- changing their look from "nice elegant dinner venue" to "transport you somewhere else dinner experience".
How can we take these lessons and apply them to our own businesses?
How do YOU plan on expanding your market?
How can we encourage students to take classes and stay in classes?
How can we try to help build the belly dance community when people are needing to cut out luxuries?
How can we get parties when again people are cutting out luxuries?
How can we do all of this in positive, proactive ways that benefit the community, the art as well as our businesses in the long run?

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Creative business cards

2009-03-30T05:49:46Z

I've just starting looking into having some business cards made. After lots of searching and comparing prices, I came across http://creativebits.org/cool_business_card_designs which has sparked my imagination, and I thought some of you here may find some inspiration init to. So many brilliant ideas! I'm determined not to settle for regular business cards now.

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Studio space

2009-03-29T11:08:44Z

What do you consider the most important things in a studio space? A wall of mirrors? Wood floors? A barre? Decor related to belly dance? And do any of you have pix or links to great looking studio spaces? What is your minimum and what is your dream?

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Tax season!!

2009-03-29T01:55:44Z

Have you filed your taxes yet?
Are you including your dance business?
I'd honestly say it's complicated and best to talk to a professional, or maybe talk to a few to find one who suits your needs.
Some are so conservative they hesitate to itemize things that CAN be. Some are so creative...they could work for Enron.

There is a list on Bhuz with a very good basic breakdown that is pretty much what my accountant says.
http://www.bhuz.com/forum/business-belly-dance/27391-spinoff-taxes.html
To make it more simple: If you use it for dance *and don't get enjoyment/benefit from it outside of contributing to your dance* then it can be a deduction.
The IRS says, "all deductible business expenses are those that are:

1. Incurred in connection with your trade, business, or profession
2. Must be "ordinary" and "necessary"
3. Must "NOT be lavish or extravagant under the circumstances""

So, SURE we need to maintain appearances in a certain way for dance...but an expensive cut and color are enjoyed during all aspects of life. Whether or not you would spend so much if you didn't dance.
Wigs, hairpieces- pretty ordinary to change or enhance your appearance for performance. Most people don't wear them outside of performance...so those can be a write-off.

Work out clothes we can wear on a day-to-day basis- doing laundry, going to a store, a walk etc. They don't count.
We don't wear the latest Bella or Eman to the grocery store. That counts.

Dance classes are obviously dance related.
Gym memberships benefit you outside of the dance. Unless your doctor prescribes particular exercises in order for you to be able to keep dancing (and you have that documented).

I have a computer and MP3 that are for dance. I have use of my husband's computer or laptop for other stuff.
If you have a room dedicated solely to dance then part of your mortgage/utilities can also be a deduction. BUT the IRS can be pretty strict about "sole purpose". I never did this until an accountant helped me with it.
That being said- last year my accountant was in the hospital with cancer. I took my previous years accountant prepared return as a guide for how to do things - and used taxact.com with the current income/expense data and did it myself.

Having an accountant you trust AND STILL doing your homework I think is a good idea.
There are a couple guides online:
http://www.theartrepreneur.com/library/tax_guide_performing_arts.asp

This site has a helpful expense list. Remember though- it's a list to bring to the accountant who will guide in what and how much can actually be deducted. I'd recommend an accountant who is experienced with performers...but if yours isn't- bring them the lists from this site. Might be helpful- or at least a good guideline for asking questions.
http://www.actorstaxprep.com/

More complete version of the first link
http://www.artstaxinfo.com/actors.shtml

Reading those sorts of links should be a good help in making an informed accountant decision.

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Vendor fees?

2009-03-28T03:39:24Z

I am having a belly dance workshop and show and I have no idea how to handle vendors. This is the first big event I've sponsored so I'm a bit lost. Do vendors usually give a percentage to the sponsor or a set fee or a mix? I want to make it beneficial for the vendors to come. I need some advice on how to set it up. I can see things from both sides because I am a vendor and an event organizer. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!

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Vista Print Business Cards

2009-03-25T00:58:48Z

Hey all. I have been debating using VistaPrint to make some cards up. I just noticed, as I was perusing their selection that they have one that has what looks like a belly dancer on it. If you go to their site and search for choreography dance you should find it. It's not my cup of tea as the colours don't appeal to me, but I thought others might be interested.

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Group vs. Private lessons costs

2009-03-17T22:12:02Z

I'm curious what people would charge for a private lesson in a student's home vs. a group. I have someone asking, because she can't make any of the lessons in the area and she wants a teacher to come to her instead. Anyone have an experiences with this sort of situation?

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Searching for a "tribe"

2009-03-14T00:36:24Z

I was wondering if there is any tribe out there specifically for bellydancers at Renaissance Festivals? I have found tribes on either or, and many bellydancers who post on Ren Fest topics and such but I would LOVE to find a tribe devoted to bellydance acts at Ren/SCA events, since it's a very specific and quirky side of the "biz of bellydance"

If no such tribe exists, are there members here who would follow me if I created one?

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CTOSS-POST: Teachers in the King of Prussia, Norristown areas in Pennsylvania

2009-03-13T21:30:00Z

Hi Everybody,

A friend of mine is interested in taking belly dance lessons. Does anyone know of any teachers in the King of Prussia, Norristown, PA areas? Any leads would be appreciated. Thanks!

Pameyla

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Linked In

2009-03-13T14:30:27Z

I'll be quitting my job at the end of the fiscal year to become a full time artist. People keep sending me invites to Linked In. Does anybody have experience with this? It seems to be yet another network, but for professionals. I'm quite the oddball with diverse and strange talents. I guess my question is, do you think this is a useful tool for a Pagan expert who is also a belly dancer, costume designer and charcoal/watercolor artist? I'm pretty reluctant to get on yet another network.

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Event Producing -- Retreat...

2009-03-13T08:54:52Z

Oh yea...so the idea sparked and I just can't contain myself. I've been on the phone with my cohort in crime (Tori King, organizer of the Tribal Massive) and we have decided to host a retreat for belly dance event organizers.

We are in the early planning stages but anticipate holding it in January 2010. We are going to keep it to 2 days and are hoping to make this a roundtable of sorts. We are certain that we have a lot to learn from each other.

For the moment, what we'd like to know is this:

a) Is this something you would like to attend?
b) What topics would you like to see addressed?

Please give us feedback as we'd love to hear what your needs are and how we can address them. We are going to do this even if it just ends up being her and I treating ourselves to massage and pedicures...LOL. But we'd really love to have some of you other event producers join us for a fun and educational weekend in Vegas, baby!!!

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dhavir productions

2009-03-13T08:36:06Z

Hi everyone!

I'm mostly a lurker on this tribe but I wanted to let you know about my company which is back in business after a few years - so excuse the blatant plug. In the past we had focused on the standard show and workshop routine in Portland,Oregon, but are now entering the video and audio realm. I'll have more news soon, so join my tribe so you don't miss out on exciting updates ! ; )

Thanks and best to you all,

David Reihs
dhavir productions

http://tribes.tribe.net/dhavir
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/group.php?gid=128062865045&ref=ts
http://www.dhavir.com (Reboot coming soon!)

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Music recommendation?

2009-03-13T02:52:36Z

Hi,
My dance partner, Misha, and I are looking for some romantic music for a special valentines day performance at a restaurant. Any suggestions? We aren't afraid to be campy! We have searched itunes with no success... :(
Thank you so much!
- Ayperi

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Need Veils

2009-03-10T03:09:51Z

HELP!!!!!

I need a new veil vendor. I was going to use Akai Silks and just read she is not taking any custom orders. I need a new quality vendor ASAP. I love her veils so i would really like someone that can get me Habotai Silk in 6mm.

Does anybody know of anybody?????

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HIGH HEELS AND BELLYDANCE

2009-03-06T23:01:00Z

Hola Bonitas!
So I really need your input on something: Im sure theres a lot of us bellydancers with day jobs around here.. so do you guys wear high heels at work?... If so.. do you feel like its affecting your knees at all? I wear them all the time, because flats and flip flops are not very fit for work.. but when I go up and down the stairs for example, I feel concerned that I might be hurting them and it will affect my dancing... as far as this specific thing goes.. what do you do if you feel a little pain on your knees? do you stop wearing heels?.. what are some good exercises for knee strength? or other suggestions?

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