Someone in Canada has their act together. Do you have a similar group in Ireland?
www.cadadance.org/programs/...ion1.1.pdf

2.3-a Choreographer Fee:
(i) $1000 minimum per week of in-studio rehearsal
(ii) $250 minimum per minute of completed choreography
(iii)20% minimum of the total project budget

I've never heard of a student paying to use a choreography taught in a class or workshop. Credit is generally given to the choreographer, but not payment.

The fees listed above looks to be what a choreographer is paid to create a dance specifically for an individual or group - if you are commissioned to create a work for someone else, then that fee structure makes sense, but if a student has already paid you for the material you teach in class, then they should not be expected to pay more just for the privilege of presenting the material.

You can and should be expected to be credited with the work, however, in an announcement before the performance or in a printed program.

I'm trying to decide this too right now! My instinct was that since I'm teaching the choreography in a private lesson I'd let that cover the price of the piece as long as credit was given when it was performed. But the input here is great, I didn't really realize there was so much discussion about this concept.

This dancer has fees to create a specific choreo for an individual, etc.

www.the-eda.com/index.php

Of course, he's a man and men really do learn better how to ask for $$ for their services/products.

I pulled the following off some dancer's guild sites last year. It is for music videos but... anything is better than nothing! Notice they mention that choreographers get twice the pay as dancers doe.

1. Music Video
If you’re hired for a music video, expect to be paid for rehearsal time and for the shoot. Rehearsals run from $175 for four hours to $250 for eight hours. A full, 12-hour day of shooting will be about $550. If the gig is non-union, you may also get a buyout: a one-time fee for the use of your likeness in the future, like when the video you’re in airs on MTV 20 times a day for the next six months. Buyouts can pay you up to $1,000.

Tim - Right now in LA, there is a $400.00 a day rate for a ten-hour shoot. There is overtime pay of $60.00 per/hour after ten hours and a double time rate of $80.00 per/hour after fourteen hours. Rehearsal pay is $200 per/day. Often the filming of a music video can take quite a while and a dancer can have an excellent day financially. There is also hazard pay for dancing on cement or on a high platform. I've recently spoken with MTV and we're working on "buyouts."

Don - Would you please explain the term buyouts?

Tim - An example of buyouts is where I can get additional money for the dancer if MTV decides to do "the making of" a particular video. MTV has a weekly program now where they give the viewers a behind the scenes look at how this video was made. Now that MTV has this series, I can get extra money for the dancers because this show is a separate project. It's not always a lot of money but the industry keeps on improving for the dancer.


Usually, a dancer cast in an A-list artist's video can earn around $3000 for two rehearsal days and two shoot-days of work. Without agents fighting for their rights, the dancers on Beyonce's latest videos will earn less.

How much does a dancer make on music videos?

You make Dancers' Alliance rates, which are currently $250 a day for rehearsals and $475 a day for shooting. The rates are good, but most videos last only a few days. (Note: Dancers' Alliance is not a union. They can only recommend. They cannot enforce.)



Money:
Note: Choreographers and people dancing for top music stars get about double the standards.

1. Music Video
If you’re hired for a music video, expect to be paid for rehearsal time and for the shoot. Rehearsals run from $175 for four hours to $250 for eight hours. A full, 12-hour day of shooting will be about $550. If the gig is non-union, you may also get a buyout: a one-time fee for the use of your likeness in the future, like when the video you’re in airs on MTV 20 times a day for the next six months. Buyouts can pay you up to $1,000.

Right now in LA, there is a $400.00 a day rate for a ten-hour shoot. There is overtime pay of $60.00 per/hour after ten hours and a double time rate of $80.00 per/hour after fourteen hours. Rehearsal pay is $200 per/day. Often the filming of a music video can take quite a while and a dancer can have an excellent day financially. There is also hazard pay for dancing on cement or on a high platform. 'I've recently spoken with MTV and we're working on "buyouts." An example of buyouts is where I can get additional money for the dancer if MTV decides to do "the making of" a particular video. MTV has a weekly program now where they give the viewers a behind the scenes look at how this video was made. Now that MTV has this series, I can get extra money for the dancers because this show is a separate project. It's not always a lot of money but the industry keeps on improving for the dancer.'

Usually, a dancer cast in an A-list artist's video can earn around $3000 for two rehearsal days and two shoot-days of work. Without agents fighting for their rights, the dancers on Beyonce's latest videos will earn less.

How much does a dancer make on music videos? You make Dancers' Alliance rates, which are currently $250 a day for rehearsals and $475 a day for shooting. The rates are good, but most videos last only a few days. (Note: Dancers' Alliance is not a union. They can only recommend. They cannot enforce.)

That is a tough one. I think it would be hard to monitor and even prove because if someone learns a routine by a dancer and changes one move then technically is no longer copyrighted. I learned about this with my DVD and also talking with Suzanna Del Vecchio (who has a number of DVDs with choreography too).

I guess my take is to hope that a person learning from me is ethical. I do actually sell choreogaphy to people -- so I make my price and standards with them. Once it is sold then really I cannot fuss too much about what they do except for giving credit mainly. I do make that a must -- that they give credit. So far it has not been an issue -- or at least not that I know.

On different twist but similar idea. I do have a troupe of dancers that are my students and I do get them paid with me where I can. At times they have performed my choreography at shows for free (a couple of places that I would have asked for payment) --- that was a tough subject for me. I want them to perform but we had to do 'ethics in finding gigs' class ---now they understand that if someone is charging to see them or making money off them, then they should charge (I am speaking of venues/bars not gigs within the dance community as we all support each other really). It was a sticky situation because they did not mean any harm but just had not looked at it from the other point of view. They were very very receptive and are doing great now. Very proud of them ----

I guess my input would be to make a price for workshops that is fair and okay with you knowing that it could happen. But also stress any additional needs or criteria upfront so that those signing up know and you can relax too.