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Hola Bonitas!
So I really need your input on something: Im sure theres a lot of us bellydancers with day jobs around here.. so do you guys wear high heels at work?... If so.. do you feel like its affecting your knees at all? I wear them all the time, because flats and flip flops are not very fit for work.. but when I go up and down the stairs for example, I feel concerned that I might be hurting them and it will affect my dancing... as far as this specific thing goes.. what do you do if you feel a little pain on your knees? do you stop wearing heels?.. what are some good exercises for knee strength? or other suggestions?
So I really need your input on something: Im sure theres a lot of us bellydancers with day jobs around here.. so do you guys wear high heels at work?... If so.. do you feel like its affecting your knees at all? I wear them all the time, because flats and flip flops are not very fit for work.. but when I go up and down the stairs for example, I feel concerned that I might be hurting them and it will affect my dancing... as far as this specific thing goes.. what do you do if you feel a little pain on your knees? do you stop wearing heels?.. what are some good exercises for knee strength? or other suggestions?
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Re: HIGH HEELS AND BELLYDANCE
Wed, February 18, 2009 - 10:27 AMMay I add to your heels question?
If you do wear heels, how do you stop them from getting caught in the hem of your georgette skirts? Whenever I wear heels, for just public wear, I always get the heels caught in the hems of my pants or skirts.
How do you get around this without wearing "floods"?
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Re: HIGH HEELS AND BELLYDANCE
Wed, February 18, 2009 - 1:00 PMI personally do not wear heals, EVER. I threw out my last pair almost a year ago. So I may be a little bit biased. That being said. Knee circles are awesome. You stand with your feet under your hips and your knees in a deep bend, and lean forward to rest your hands on your knees (without putting any added weight on the knees). Then take your knees in a circle to the right about 8 times, really gently, and then reverse. You can also separate your feet a little wider and take your knees in opposite directions, towards each other, and away. (sort of like that dance move, the mashed potato, I think it's called, it also reminds me of a flapper kinda move). I would also recommend ankle rolls and stretches as well. I was in a bad car accident several years ago that affected both my ankles and consequently my knees. These gentle joint rotations have helped me tremendously, and it is very rare that I experience pain now. Good luck.
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Re: HIGH HEELS AND BELLYDANCE
Sat, February 21, 2009 - 10:46 PMAzeeza, I'm all for the "floods". What I do is put on my shoes that I will be wearing, get into basic position, and in basic positon, your hem should almost brush the floor. The whole point being, that while you are dancing, most of that time is from basic position, i.e. knees bent.
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Re: HIGH HEELS AND BELLYDANCE
Wed, February 18, 2009 - 1:20 PMI wear ballroom shoes. They are comfortable and have a couple of different heel heights to chose from.
I only wear them when I am dancing at restaurants. The floors are disgusting and I want to raise myself up a bit for dancing between the tables.
I find it really hard to do proper Egyptian shimmies in heels, so I prefer bare feet, but I wouldn't be without my pretty heels for the restaurants. -
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Re: HIGH HEELS AND BELLYDANCE
Wed, February 18, 2009 - 6:45 PMBefore my foot surgery, I'd only wear heels before/after a performance. Not during my day job (too much running around). During performances, I'll stick with Bloch Grecians that have a 1" heel. I'm 5' ZERO so I like having that one extra little inch of height! ;o)
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Re: HIGH HEELS AND BELLYDANCE
Mon, February 23, 2009 - 12:19 PMDo you have any good online sources and brands you could recommend?
Thanks
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Re: HIGH HEELS AND BELLYDANCE
Wed, February 18, 2009 - 10:50 PMSit very straight in a chair, everything properly aligned. With your foot flexed (as opposed to pointed), maintaining alignment, straighten your leg, but do not hyperextend it. Repeat. Then repeat the same number on the other side. Once you are used to it, you may add a weight. Proper alignment should be more the focus than weight.
Also stretch all of your leg muscles, especially the gastrocnemius and soleus, which are attached to the Achilles tendon. These in particular need stretching because wearing heels allows these muscles to shorten.
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Re: HIGH HEELS AND BELLYDANCE
Wed, February 18, 2009 - 10:51 PMI wear shoes that have a lift in the heel, although not all of them are "high heels" in the traditional sense of the pump style or sandal or whatnot. But pretty much all of my shoes are at least 2-3 inches up. I don't have knee issues, but I think that's due to a mix of things like luck and genetics...and of course I try to stay really active.
However, it's also how you carry yourself in heels...I see so many women in heels who just don't know how to wear them (NOT insinuating that you're not wearing them well, Nat!) and that can be dangerous. Good posture, core strength and the right gait are all imperative to wearing heels in a healthy way. -
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Fri, February 20, 2009 - 1:13 PMLOL Gibson!! so right.. the thing is that I have been wearing them for over 15 yrs (I started when I was baby hehehe jk) and I pretty much know how to walk in them, but with those huge platforms in style right now, I guess its my fault that I have chose to wear them to work and we have stairs so.... also I am now more concerned than before since I am putting more of my focus on dance than say 2 years ago and I know I need to take better care of my legs as a dancer.. THANKS TO ALL FOR THE GREAT SUGGESTIONS!!
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Re: HIGH HEELS AND BELLYDANCE - some women just don't know how to wear them
Mon, February 23, 2009 - 10:59 PM> Gibs wrote: "...However, it's also how you carry yourself in heels...I see so many women in
> heels who just don't know how to wear them"
LOL. Reminds me of an ol' temp job I worked on during my college days. A new temp had just started there, and she always wore high heals, chewed gum very strongly, short bright red skirt.. well.. you get the visual (maybe?). Anyway, one day she was walking between rooms and WHAM she fell flat down on her face. Our first reaction was concern until she exclaimed "Oh, don't worry. That happens all the time!"
I guess there's an art (and grace) to wearing heals, eh?
:-) Rob
PS I've never personally had a problem wearing heals -
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Re: HIGH HEELS AND BELLYDANCE - some women just don't know how to wear them
Thu, March 5, 2009 - 9:47 AMLOL!!!!!! RED ROB ttly had a mental picture of that! -
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Re: HIGH HEELS AND BELLYDANCE - some women just don't know how to wear them
Thu, March 5, 2009 - 10:26 AMI wore heels everyday for 4 years, but I belly danced barefoot for classes and I always run around barefoot at home. I also stretch. Mom got me my first heels (a wedge) when I was 12. Been wearing heels since. But I was in gymnastics when I was a teen, and dance after that. It makes a huge difference what you do when you are OUT of the shoes!!!! BUT some people just should not wear them! If it hurts while they are on, don't wear them. If you have any kind of foot or back problem, don't wear them. If you have a balance problem, really don't wear them!
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Re: HIGH HEELS AND BELLYDANCE
Wed, February 18, 2009 - 11:29 PMThe foot gurus will tell you that if you regularly wear heels, don't go any higher than a 2" heel. Otherwise they don't do your ankles, knees, hips and back any favors. I once knew a woman who wore 3" stillettos EVERY day for work. After more than 20 years of that, she could no longer wear flats because her Achilles Tendon had atrophied into the length for the heels and she could not stretch it to flatten her feet. That's what they'll do to you. There are some stylish flats, kitten heels and wedges that are not as damaging and fit for work, even in the most formal of workplaces.
That being said, an occasional wearing of heels is okay, c'mon, we're women. We will wear heels, just be sensible with it. Make sure that if you go over a sturdy 2" heel, you have ample time to sit. Don't be on your feet all day in stillettos. (My feet certainly let me know when I wear heels - I prefer bare feet.) If you have pain in your knees, you need to find another pair of heels. Some are more comfortable that others. I have seen some UGLY feet on women, many times due to the disfigurement caused by wearing ill fitting shoes, i.e. heels.
I agree with wearing shoes, dressy shoes, when performing in a restaurant. I'm sure the health department applauds the idea of wearing shoes. I would not want to be barefoot in a restaurant. Ballroom dance shoes are a good idea. They are specially made to be comfortable and supportive to your feet. I've heard that they actually are comfortable. Imagine that. Dressy shoes, because in my opinion, nothing spoils the classy cabaret look more than a broken down pair of shoes with the fancy costume. Even tribal needs to carry that theme into their foot covering.
I'll get off my soapbox now...
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Re: HIGH HEELS AND BELLYDANCE
Thu, February 19, 2009 - 4:00 AMIt depends on the shoe. Not all shoes fit equally well. But I had a strained knee there for a while because of dance training and therefore got off the heels also in the other time to make the healing quicker.
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Re: HIGH HEELS AND BELLYDANCE
Thu, February 19, 2009 - 6:08 AMMy mother wore heels every day and, like one of the above posts, she can no longer wear flats without pain. I only wear skinny heels for the occasional night out (less than 5 times a year) and when I go dancing at a club (not belly dancing, normal dance club) the "heels" I wear are platform boots with really wide soles with a fat heel and a broad area for the balls of my feet, so my foot is actually really comfy (and I put inserts in the boots for extra cushioning).
One thing that helped a friend with her feet when she wore heels was the type of insert she put in them. The ones that just cushion under the balls of your feet don't correct the basic problem of your weight placement, so they may feel good for a short period of time, but not for long and you're still doing yourself a lot of damage. She got these inserts for heels that were arch supports and she said they redistributed her weight more evenly over her entire foot, thereby not putting as much strain on the balls of her feet. It's not as good as not wearing heels, but it does help. :)
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Re: HIGH HEELS AND BELLYDANCE
Sat, February 21, 2009 - 9:03 PMI wouldn't worry so much about the knees - high heels are awful for the feet and the tendons in your lower leg. I had a student once who wore high heels her whole life, and literally could not dance without heels because her tendons were so short she couldn't stand flat. She was in physical therapy for it, but it had been so long her progress was slow. granted, when I say she wore heels, I mean HEELS - as in five to six inch heels.
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Re: HIGH HEELS AND BELLYDANCE
Sun, February 22, 2009 - 8:54 AMYup, I agree with Nefabit. After seeing what both my grandmothers went through with their feet later in life because of wearing heels, I am over them. I am learning that beauty really doesn't need to be painful. :)
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Re: HIGH HEELS AND BELLYDANCE
Fri, March 6, 2009 - 3:01 PMAfter I tore my achilles tendon, no more heels above 1 1/2 inches for me. I've tried, and since my calf starts spasming - it just isn't going to happen. That said, my feet are so happy now that I've gotten the fashion monkey off my back. But, I will say one thing - back when I was a teen, my grandmother taught me how to walk in them - by balancing on the balls of my feet at all times, with no more than about 30% of my weight on the heels when standing. It was "all" about the weight on the ball of the foot, abs tucked, chest lifted... hmmm - this is starting to sound like "good posture". Anyway, it allowed me to glide and not lose my balance, but *gods*, it hurt. (Rock hard calves, though). =0)